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I was watching a Scott Manley video on youtube and he mentioned that the Sun was losing 4 million tons of mass a second as it converts to energy.

With a few trillion trillion stars also converting mass to energy, I wonder if that would be a component to the missing "dark matter" mass?

I'm a complete layperson here, just very interested in astronomy and the physics involved.

hft
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The cosmologically relevant light is the cosmic microwave background (CMB), not radiation from stars. The energy density of the CMB is about $10^{-13}$ J/m3. This is of the same order of magnitude as the energy density of starlight within our galaxy, but most of the universe is intergalactic space where the density of starlight is much lower. The average energy density of the universe is about $10^{-9}$ J/m3, so today the CMB is a very small component of the total. In the past, the universe was dominated by radiation rather than dark energy.

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Well... the mass of the sun is $2 \times 10^{30} kg$. If it loses $4 \times 10^9 kg$ per second, it would take 160 billion years for it to lose 1% of its mass.

The dark matter content of the universe is theorized to be 26.8%. So, the total mass contribution from photons cannot possibly account for the missing dark matter.

Also, if light from stars really made such an enormous contribution to the mass-energy of the universe, then we would see this light. (i.e. it wouldn't be dark!)

Dmitry Brant
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Aside from the estimates of energy density that others have given you, it's worth pointing out that this energy is radiation in the form of massless photons. Dark matter is stuff that hangs around in galaxies for a long time, so it has to be made up of slow-moving massive particles. Photons fly off at the speed of light, and couldn't possibly play the role of dark matter.

Also, photons are pretty much the opposite of "dark."

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The mass equivalent energy density of the photonic radiation $\rm \rho_r$ is

$$\rm \rho_r=\frac{8 \ π^5 \ k_B^4 \ T^4}{15 \ c^5 \ h^3}$$

where $\rm k_B$ is the Boltzman constant, $\rm T$ the temperature and $\rm h$ Planck's constant,

so with $\rm T=2.725 \ K$ we get $\rm \rho_r = 4.64 \ E-31 \ kg/m^3$,

or in terms of energy $\rm \rho_r \ c^2= 4.17 \ E-14 \ J/m^3$.

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Dmitry Brandt (above) said "if so much light was present it wouldn't be dark" light only reflects to us upon hitting an object . So say I shine a flashlight in the sky at dark (ignoring fog and dust for now) the only thing I'd see would be a couple bugs. This is basically exactly how light in the universe would act. It hits another planet /asteroid/ nebula and is reflected to us(or shines on us directly as starlight). All the light that doesnt hit anything travels into deep empty space eventually. I've read up to one tenth of the mass of a star is lost in the energetic particles it creates. Since less than 1% of the stars in the sky still exist that means 99% of those long burned out stars lost close to 10% of there mass as photons or other energetic particles. Thats basically 1/10th the weight of the universe then right? That should only leave 17% (27%of matter in the universe is dark) to account for. But now try to calculate for dark energy haha.