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Let's take a universe which contains only the Earth and a rocket. This rocket launches and travels far away from the Earth. Eventually it reaches a point of no return where due to the expansion of the universe, it can never return to earth even if it travels at the speed of light.

Let's turn the thrusters off. As the only other body in the universe is the Earth, the rocket will experience a gravitational pull, although it might be really small. Given infinite time, the rocket should accelerate towards the Earth. However, it will never reach the Earth. Therefore, our rocket is stuck in this perpetual state of free fall where it experiences a pull but will never reach the Earth.

What happens in this scenario?

It cannot accelerate forever as it cannot go faster than the speed of light.

I cannot arrive at a conclusion. I have no idea what to google and I don't know if the title is accurate.

What are any misunderstandings I've made?

What is a definite answer?

What role does relativity play?

I'm a high school student.

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satyamedh
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satyamedh wrote: "Let's take a universe which contains only the Earth and a rocket. This rocket launches and travels far far away from the Earth. [...] due to the expansion of the universe [...]"

If you have an expanding universe where the only relevant mass is the earth you need the Schwarzschild De Sitter metric.

satyamedh wrote: "Let's turn the thrusters off. As the only other body in the universe is the Earth, the rocket will experience a gravitational pull, although it might be infinitely small."

If you come to rest after you went above $\rm r_0=\sqrt[3]{G M/H^2}$ you will be accelerated away from the earth, towards the Hubble radius. If you come to rest before that you will fall back towards the earth, and if you come to rest exactly there you will keep a constant distance to the earth.

satyamedh wrote: "I know it cannot accelerate forever as it cannot go faster than the speed of light."

Even if the rocket accelerates forever it will never overtake a photon since you can increase the momentum as high as you want and you will only get arbitrarily close to the local speed of light without ever reaching it.

After you crossed the Black Hole horizon or the Hubble radius your $\rm v$ relative to the distant coordinate origin will be higher than $\rm c$ though, but that happens even without proper acceleration in free fall, and the velocity relative to any local particle or observer will still always be less than $\rm c$.


I'll also adress the question in the comments below:

Christopher King asked: "What time do you come to rest? The rocket still has momentum when you turn the thrusters off."

For the time you have to integrate the reciprocal of $\rm dr/d\tau=v/E$ from $\rm r_1$ to $\rm r_0$, but in the scenario where you come to rest at $\rm r_0$ you get there asymptotically, so to be exact that takes an infitite time. You'll get close enough fast enough though, see the plot below.

The $\rm r$ or $\rm v$ can be solved for analytically: if you turn your rocket off at $\rm r_1$ you can use the conserved total energy $\rm E=g_{tt} \ \dot{t}=\gamma \ \surd g_{tt}$ to solve for the required velocity $\rm v_1$ at $\rm r_1$ that you need in order to reach $\rm r_0$ with $\rm v_0=0$:

$$\rm \frac{v_1}{c}=\sqrt{1-\frac{1-r_s/r_1-H^2 r_1^2/c^2}{1-r_s/r_0-H^2 r_0^2/c^2}}$$

Example: if we have $\rm H=c^3/(G M \surd 60)$ and we want to turn off our rocket at $\rm r_1=2.5 \ G M/c^2$, we there need a velocity of $\rm v_1=0.768058 \ c$ in order to reach $\rm r_0=3.91487 \ G M/c^2 \ ($the cosmic event horizon with that parameters would be at $\rm r_c=6.42925 \ G M/c^2$ and the black hole horizon at $\rm r_b=2.1704 \ G M/c^2)$:

Schwarzschild De Sitter Animation Static Radius

The animation stops when the velocity is close enough to zero to vanish in the numeric noise, but in fact it will get slower and slower forever converging to $\rm r_0$.

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Therefore, our rocket is stuck in this perpetual state of free fall where it experiences a pull but will never reach the Earth.

This is called an escape trajectory and it is not special. In order to reach this state, you do not need to escape the observable Universe (you can't effectively do this anyway); if you start travelling at around 11 km/s in any direction near Earth's surface, you have enough orbital energy to permanently escape the gravity well.

Essentially: setting a reference point at infinity, there's only so much potential energy that the Earth gives an object near it in terms of its gravity. If you put this much additional energy into an object, it can break free of the gravity and go off to infinity, always feeling a pull from the Earth but never falling below zero velocity away from it.

For the Earth near the surface, an object moving at 11 km/s has roughly enough kinetic energy to overcome its own gravitational potential energy. The total mechanical energy of the object (potential energy from gravity is negative and goes to zero at infinite distance, kinetic energy is positive) becomes overall positive.

I know it cannot accelerate forever as it cannot go faster than the speed of light.

Gravitational acceleration also won't ever make it go past lightspeed. The four-velocity will go to infinity, but so will the Lorentz factor, so the three-velocity always stays below $c$.

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I think your confusion hinges on an assumption you're making in:

As the only other body in the universe is the Earth, the rocket will experience a gravitational pull, although it might be really small. Given infinite time, the rocket should accelerate towards the Earth.

The conclusion is incorrect. A body can feel a diminishingly small force, but never move in the direction of that force or even come to a complete stop as a result of it.

As the simplest example, take a one dimensional case of mass $m$ (that can serve as a toy model for your spaceship) moving in a gravitational-like potential (that diminishes as $1/x$). The equation of motion is:

$$ m\ddot{x} = -\frac{K}{x^2} $$

Which should be clear to you, it is just $F=ma$, where the restoring force $F(x)$ here is inversely proportional to the square of the distance of the spaceship, and $K$ is some positive real constant.

Now we can put $k=K/m$ and write:

$$ \ddot{x} +\frac{k}{x^2} = 0 $$

Now comes a bit of a standard trick for such a differential equation, multiply both sides by $\dot{x}$ so:

$$ \dot{x}\ddot{x}+\frac{k\dot{x}}{x^2}=0$$

the next part of the trick is to notice that both terms can be expressed as a time derivative of another quantity:

$$ \frac{d}{dt}\left(\frac{1}{2}\dot{x}^2 -\frac{k}{x}\right) = 0$$

Looks familiar? I hope so. It is the time derivative of the sum of the kinetic energy and the potential energy (per unit mass). We can integrate this easily, and knowingly denote the resulting constant on the RHS by the letter $E$:

$$\frac{1}{2}\dot{x}^2 -\frac{k}{x} = E $$

Now what can it tell us? $E$, being an integration constant, is a conserved quantity, the total energy of the spaceship. When the spaceship starts it journey, it has some nonzero KE and the direction of the velocity is outward from the gravitating body.

So, to check your assumption, we need to ask when does it happen that $\dot{x}=0$, which must occur first in order for the spaceship to turn around. So now let's look at the total initial energy $E_i$ which must equal the final energy $E_f$ when the velocity (and hence the KE) vanishes at $x_f$:

$$ E_i = \frac{1}{2}\dot{x}_i^2 - \frac{k}{x_i} = -\frac{k}{x_f} = E_f $$

where $x_i$ and $x_f$ are the initial and final positions respectively, and $\dot{x}_i$ is the initial velocity. We can see that this implies:

$$ \frac{1}{2}v_i^2 = \frac{k}{x_i}-\frac{k}{x_f} \tag{$\star$}$$

(where I've put $v_i = \dot{x}_i$, being a constant now, we don't need the explicit time derivative notation).

Now remember, we can set $v_i$ to whatever we like (strictly speaking up to the speed of light, $v_i < c$). On the right hand side, we have two positive quantities, the left term of which $k/x_i$ being clearly larger than $k/x_f$ which is good because KE must be positive!

So it is clear that if we set our initial velocity such that $\frac{1}{2}v_i^2 = \large\frac{k}{x_i}$ there will exist no finite $x_f$ that will satisfy the above condition marked $(\star)$.

This leads precisely to the condition defining the escape velocity, that is:

$$ \frac{1}{2}v^2_{\text{escape}} = \frac{k}{x_i}, $$

and solving for $v_{\text{escape}}$:

$$ v_{\text{escape}} = \sqrt{\frac{2k}{x_i}} $$

which is a standard result. In the case of Newtonian gravity, we have $k=GM$ with $G$ the gravitational constant, $M$ the mass of the gravitating body and $x_i$ the initial radius of the launch (for a launch from the surface of the Earth it would be Earth's radius).

So every initial speed $v_i$ we choose to launch with that satisfies $v_i > v_{\text{escape}}$, will lead to the spaceship never turning around, you may well say that it will be in a perpetual state of free fall.

I always think that this kind of thing is only unintuitive as much as understanding how it comes about that an infinite series of positive terms can sum up to a finite result. To mention a famous example:

$$ 1 + \frac{1}{2^2} + \frac{1}{3^2} + \frac{1}{4^2}+ \underbrace{ \dots}_{\text{infinitely many terms!}} = \frac{\pi^2}{6}$$

Our intuition tells us that if something keeps contributing in "the same way" endlessly, like continuing to pull forever in your case, however weakly, or like an endless series of positive terms in the above example, then it will always result in an effect which will itself be without bound, hence infinite.

But the study of calculus shows us this intuition is incorrect, as I hope I convinced you for the case of the spaceship, and I also hope you'll get an even better grasp on when you study more advanced topics in calculus like the convergence of infinite series and integrals.


Note that nowhere have I invoked the additional premise by which space itself is expanding, because I think this is unnecessary in order to address the core of your question.

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If it "can never return to earth even if it travels at the speed of light" (let's call this Earth's "event horizon", since I don't know a better term) then no light from it will reach Earth, and no light from Earth will reach it. Light and gravity travel at the same speed. So at that point, no gravity from Earth will reach it.

That in itself answers the question asked, but let's explore the scenario a little more.

At any point within that distance, the object will accelerate towards Earth.

Whether that acceleration lets it reach Earth obviously depends on its initial velocity, and whether that initial velocity overcomes the expansion of the universe.

And what velocity it impacts the Earth, from Earth's inertial frame, is going to be (escape velocity) + (initial velocity towards earth) - (integral of the velocities by which each point between the starting point and Earth was moving away from Earth as the ship passed through those points on its return).

I know that last term is poorly explained. But basically, as it moves towards Earth, the space between the two will expand less, just because there's less space there to expand.

Is there a stable "balance point" anywhere, where the initial velocity of the ship counteracts the expansion velocity of the universe, and the gravitational force from the earth counteracts the increasing expansion of the distance between them?

I'm gonna say "no".

Consider: if the relative velocity of earth and ship is initially zero (that is, the ship is flying through space towards Earth at the exact same speed that space is expanding between the ship and Earth), then it can only be stable if the distance between ship and Earth does not reduce. But it will experience at least an infinitesimal velocity increase towards Earth, because gravity. As it gets closer, the expansion of space between them will drop, and the acceleration due to gravity will rise: both factors will work to accelerate the ship towards Earth, so there's no stability to be had there.

That sets a maximum bound on relative velocity towards Earth at "less than zero".

But any negative velocity towards Earth will increase the distance between the two. Which means it will eventually reach Earth's "event horizon" and they'll disappear from each other, and no longer affect each other.

But if there were a path that lasted infinite time, asymptotically closing the distance between the ship and event horizon but never reaching it, that could work... but as relative velocity becomes zero, two factors feed back in a positive feedback loop: the distance between planet and ship rises, increasing the speed by which space can increase between them; and gravity becomes weaker, reducing the pull. So it's not going to move away at a decreasing rate, but an accelerating one.

So, there is no point of stability at the balance point.

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