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I fully re-edited my question

I have a super basic question. Note that I am just beginning to learn linear response theory.

General context:

If I consider a linear, time invariant, causal system, relating an input $E$ to an output $S$, I know that the relationship between $E$ and $S$ respect the following relationship:

$$S(t)=\int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} \chi(t-t') E(t') dt' + S(-\infty)$$

Where $\chi(u<0)=0$ to respect causality. $\chi$ is called the linear response function, its Fourier transform is called the susceptibility.

Usually we consider the output being $\widetilde{S}(t)=S(t)-S(-\infty)$ to avoid having this extra term on the r.h.s. From now on I will assume $S(-\infty)=0$.

All this is math. Now we apply this theory to describe physical systems.

The imaginary part of the susceptibility is supposed to represent the dissipation occuring in a linear system. The susceptibility is the Fourier transform of the linear response function.

However in principle, for it to represent dissipation, $E(t)$ and $S(t)$ must be specific variables and not "any". I take the example of the relationship voltage-current arround a resistor. For me $E(t)=I(t)$ and $S(t)=U(t)$. The system being linear, causal and time invariant, I can write:

$$U(t)=\int_{-\infty}^t \chi(t-t') I(t') dt'$$

In practice, here: $\chi(t-t')=R \delta(t-t')$.

And we see $\chi(\omega)=R$ which is purely real. Then it is here the real part that represent dissipation and not the imaginary one.

My question

How can I know which quantity should represent the input (generalized force) and output (response variable) so that in fits in the usual framework in which it is applied in physics. Basically we expect that the physical interpretation of dissipation holds for the susceptibility. But maybe there are other physical interpretation that must hold as well. I would like an answer general enough.

Indeed up to my understanding, all the theorem in linear response theory are "simply" mathematical derivations. It is when we do physics that we say "this represents dissipation". Thus I expect in principle that we can take any variable as force and any variable as response (as long as the system is linear,causaul,time invariant). It is only at the physical interpretation level that one must be careful.

Do you also confirm this statement I make ?

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How can I know which quantity should represent the input (generalized force) and output (response variable) so that in fits in the usual framework in which it is applied in physics.

In the standard setup of linear response theory, the Hamiltonian contains the product of the input $F$ and the output $x$, $$H_{\text{int}} \supset F(t) x.$$ Examples of pairs of this form include force and position, pressure and volume, and external magnetic field and magnetization. This is similar to the definition of conjugate variables in thermodynamics, since differentially we have $dU = F \, dx$.

Indeed up to my understanding, all the theorem in linear response theory are "simply" mathematical derivations. It is when we do physics that we say "this represents dissipation". Thus I expect in principle that we can take any variable as force and any variable as response

I wouldn't agree with that at all. The trivial parts of linear response theory are indeed independent of what you choose to be the input and output, since they follow from the symmetries alone. But statements such as the fluctuation dissipation theorem are proven starting from the assumption I made above. Of course, you cannot say anything whatsoever about energy dissipation unless you assume something about the Hamiltonian.

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The Fourier Transform is a linear operator with respect to the "outside" multiplications, i.e. the physical entities like voltage, current, susceptibility, inductance etc. A linear replacement of the amplitude I with I - I" will yield a Fourier transform with a factor I - I".

But the FT is non-linear with respect to the time parameter. If the time parameter t in the time domain is replaced by t - t`, the FT will be multiplied by a complex exponential factor, according to the displacement or time shifting rule.

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