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Probably been answered but couldn't find the answer.

From the perspective of a photon: - For the photon to travel from body A to body B would take 0 secs. - The universe would be one point in "something" and the lifespan of a photon would be 0 secs. - But photons are created and "die" all the time, did they exist? - There is no such thing as time(?).

Singularity but what falls apart, if the photon exists?

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From the perspective of a photon:

There is no such perspective.

I was trying get an understanding of the universe from the photons perspective.

There is no such perspective.


Consider the following excerpt from I am driving my car at the speed of light and I turn on my headlights. What do I see?:

Sometimes people persist: What would the world look like in the reference frame of a photon?

What does a photon experience?

Does space contract to two dimensions at the speed of light?

Does time stop for a photon?. . .

It is really not possible to make sense of such questions and any attempt to do so is bound to lead to paradoxes.

There are no inertial reference frames in which the photon is at rest so it is hopeless to try to imagine what it would be like in one.

Photons do not have experiences.

There is no sense in saying that time stops when you go at the speed of light.

This is not a failing of the theory of relativity. There are no inconsistencies revealed by these questions. They just don't make sense.

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Imagining that "you are the photon" is an ill-posed question.

The problem is this: There is a strict distinction between massive and massless particles. For massive ($m\neq0$) particles, you can always find a reference frame where the particle is stationary. For massless ($m=0$) particles this is impossible. This means there is no reference frame in which the photon perceives itself as "at rest" while cruising through the universe.

An illuminating way of thinking is in terms of what is happening at simultaneous time (see image bellow). For a stationary observer (green), space and time are orthogonal, as seen by all other stationary observers. The faster the relative speed between observers (purple), the more the time- and space axis tilt towards each other.

When a particle is traveling at the speed of light (orange, which means $m=0$), then the time axis and the space axis are parallel. This means that all events along the trajectory of the photon take place at the same time (for the photon).

In this sense, the lifetime of a photon is $t=0$ seconds. On the other hand, you may imagine the photon as frozen in time, so these $t=0$ seconds are not "noticed" by the photon.

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It means that for ultra near-c-speed particles, the closest to c the less time and space exist. For instance, transactionalists consider the emission then absorption of a photon by distant electronic layers as a simple handshake between them (the photon jumping instantaneously from one to the other in his "frame"). This also gives some clue about the pre-bigbang universe, before particules be coupled with mass: this univers could mostly be considered as a network of interactions without such notion on clock and lengths. Which does not mean particles and interaction don't "exist". Plus it does not mean that c-speed particles won't have length and duration for an exterior observer.

Now, take care about the photon being a particle, like a kind of small marble. Would you say a wave travelling on top of the ocean is an object ? that "exist" ? ;-)