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(updated the change the term "sliding" to the, in this case, more correct "rolling")

About parking a car with a manual transmission on a sloped surface:

  1. Is it normal that the car starts rolling downhill if only the parking brake is applied and the gear selector is left on neutral?
  2. Is there any difference between leaving the gear selector on reverse vs. any of the forward gears?
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The parking brake should hold the vehicle, otherwise it can be difficult to achieve a hill start.

When parking, the front wheels should be turned into the kerb so if it rolls it runs into the kerb and stops.

Solar Mike
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It isn't normal that the car moves downhill with the parking brake applied, if it does it shows that the parking brake isn't working properly. It should fully stop the car even when on a steep hill. This can be caused by worn brake shoes, the cable could be stretched out or the mechanisms are worn, all are (generally) straightforward to fix. It's a safety issue that will make your car fail an inspection, and rightly so, if it won't stop your car from rolling down a hill it won't stop your car if your main brakes fail.

As to reverse and forward there is no single answer. What I was always taught, and what was in the NY State DMV handbook when I took my driving test many years ago was to put the transmission in reverse gear when parked downhill and in a forward gear when uphill, this is so the car rolling will work against the engine's normal rotation. In older cars this was important as spinning the engine could cause it to start without the ignition being turned as they had mechanical fuel pumps and ignition systems. Newer, electronically controlled engines won't run without the computer so this isn't an issue and you are better doing the opposite as may damage the engine. So in a newer car put it in reverse going uphill and first going downhill.

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The way I was taught in driving school is this:

  1. Pull the handbrake (this is obvious)
  2. Put the car into gear (1st or reverse are recommended) in case the handbrake fails. The gear does not matter that much though and any would work in the end, because compression is what keeps the car from moving. When the wheels start rolling, the gearbox transfers that motion to the engines and pistons, one or more will eventually compress the air in the combustion chamber, the pressure resisting the rolling of the wheels, and the car stops
  3. Finally, turn the wheels towards the kerb. In case all of the above fail (highly unlikely), the car rolls and stops into the kerb/fence/whatever is on the side of the road and not in the middle of the road/traffic/pedestrians/etc.
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(Assuming that "sliding" is an unintentional wording. Unless the street is frozen with ice, a car normally never slides downhill.)

If the gear is in neutral (i.e. no gear engaged) then it is very normal for the car to roll downhill if the parking brake is not engaged.
If the parking brake is engaged and the car still rolls downhill, the brake is either broken or adjusted badly. In either case, this needs fixing.
Modern parking brakes are a kind of nuisance in that respect because nowadays everything must be "smart" with microchips, blinking lights, and little electro motors. On a "traditional" parking brake, there's an iron wire attached to the lever with two screws. Open screws, pull cable a bit tighter, close screws, done. On a modern brake, prepare to pull your wallet.

That being said, the parking brake, in my opinion, shouldn't be used for parking in the first place. Yes, your driving instructor tells you that, but either way...

The first gear is mighty fine for holding your car in place. The reverse gear also works, and in theory would be "even better" (some super smart cars indeed force you to use that one), although when something is already perfectly good, then there is no such thing as "even better".
The first gear is preferrable insofar as it is easier to engage, less obnoxious to the transmission levers, and less irritating to other traffic participants. And since it is just good enough, there's no need to do anything else.
I've used nothing else for two decades (well, I'd say 3 decades, but since about a decade I'm only driving on manual transmission occasionally so that doesn't count).

The reverse gear is more difficult to engage, it will cause the white light on the back of your car to light up (which is irritating to others!) and it is more stressful overall.

The parking brake has the downside that if you engage it during winter (outside, not in your garage) and you come back some hours later, you may get a funny surprise for free because now your car is unusable with a frozen-up parking brake. Likewise, if you park your car with parking brake engaged and something happens (something, anything, like... you go to hospital or on holiday) and you leave your car there for a couple of weeks, you may equally get a nice surprise upon returning. Usually an unpleasant, scary noise as the brake breaks free. While not a real problem, it's more scary and annoying than it needs to be.

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