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I need over voltage cut off circuit.

If input voltage goes above 440V input power should cut off , once input voltage is back to normal 230V then switch (MOSFET) should be conducting and when supply voltage is greater than 440V MOSFET should not conduct**). ? plz help

  • What is behind the circuit ? More specifically: do you have a diode bridge as the first stage and can the protection circuit be placed after this diode bridge, so it handles only high-voltage DC ? Or does the protection circuit have to accept AC voltage ? – dim Apr 26 '16 at 10:22
  • Why circuit? Use just TVS. –  Apr 26 '16 at 10:25
  • Why don't you design your power supply to be able to work at 230V and 440V AC? A simple way is use a standard SMPS with a 2:1 transformer on the power input hence 230V becomes 115V and 440V becomes 220V. – Andy aka Apr 26 '16 at 10:36
  • Your proposed circuit is unclear. SHOW A SCHEMATIC – Olin Lathrop Apr 26 '16 at 11:00
  • @Andy well, that would become more expensive than an appropriate protection circuit. – dim Apr 26 '16 at 11:00
  • @dim please allow the OP to answer that - if I wanted someone else to answer that I would have made it perfectly clear. Adding a transformer adds cost - that DOES NOT need to be said because it is clearly obvious. – Andy aka Apr 26 '16 at 11:04
  • Andy, on this forum cost is a forbidden word. A question related to cost is banned. So it actually cannot be said and not being punished. –  Apr 26 '16 at 11:09
  • ??? I think the implications of what I said are now beyond me. Sorry if I offended anyone. – dim Apr 26 '16 at 11:15
  • People here are mean maniacs, don't pay attention –  Apr 26 '16 at 18:53
  • Putting transformer is not a solution to my problem but thanks for the suggestion – Nikhil Joshi May 01 '16 at 10:48
  • @dim ..... yes protection circuit is after the bridge rectifier. – Nikhil Joshi May 02 '16 at 13:17
  • @Olin Lathrop ... I am asking you guys for a schematic – Nikhil Joshi Jun 28 '17 at 09:29
  • @dim.. yes i want to put the circuit after the diode bridge.. so only for dc – Nikhil Joshi Jun 28 '17 at 09:30

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Honestly, I don't know if this circuit is appropriate for your specific needs as you didn't give much details, but just for fun, here is what I came up with. It must be located between the supposed diode bridge and the rest of the circuit to protect (it takes DC current as input).

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Explanations

The D1+R1 part forms a small 10V supply (you may need an additional capacitor across D1). R2+R3 is a voltage divider. When the voltage divider output goes above 10V (which happens when the supply goes above ~400V), Q1 starts conducting, which in turn makes Q2 conduct and shuts down the mosfet. When the fault disappears, everything goes back to normal, but it takes a longer time.

There may be ways to make the circuit simpler. For example, you can eliminate Q2 by exchanging Q1 base and emitter, but in this case, it takes longer to shut down from the fault than to recover.

Component choice

You have to be careful on the choice of the mosfet. It has to withstand the maximum fault voltage you want to prevent. Also, R1 dissipation must be rated appropriately: 1W is the minimum, may be more, depending on the voltage you want to handle. Also use appropriate diodes for the bridge, they also should withstand the max fault voltage.

Operating conditions

Power consumption of this circuit under normal conditions is about 0.3 Watts.

Shutting down due to an overvoltage takes about 100µS. Recovering when the fault disappears takes about 400µS.

Edit

This is the source of the circuit, for reference

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How about a comparator driving a relay, when the measured voltage exceeds a preset value, the relay is turned off, when the voltage comes back into range it's turned on again, you'd need a small supply for the comparator and relay though

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  • can we use mosfet as a switch , i want it compact so i dont want to use relay. Thnx. – Nikhil Joshi Jun 14 '17 at 07:03
  • @NikhilJoshi There's no reason why you can't replace a relay with a MOSFET, just be aware that with an N channel FET the gate needs to be raised 5-10V above the voltage on the source terminal to turn it on while a P channel FET need a gate voltage 5-10V below the source voltage to turn it on. This can sometimes make the drive circuitry more complex and you lose the isolation and bidirectional current switching that a relay provides. – Sam Jun 15 '17 at 07:48