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Hawking theorized the evaporation of black holes. Photons are pictured to slowly radiate their mass away. The higher the mass the longer it takes (due to smaller tidal forces).

Which makes one question, how can the inside matter, composed of normal matter (so no anti-matter), be transformed into photons only? Doesn't this contradict all conservation laws in particle physics? Are there reactions in particle physics that transform all involved particles into photons, except matter anti-matter reactions?

Put differently, how can quarks and electrons annihilate? They both posses the same amount of plus and minus charge, but I'm not aware of processes in which they are destroyed, mutually or separately. Not even by the negative energy wave falling in from the horizon, which destroys mass but not the charges.

Most black holes form from stellar matter, excluding neutrinos, or collapsing neutron stars, containing up and down quarks only (in the ratio 1:2). If we consider the neutron black hole, you would think that their masses and charges can only be annihilated by negative energy anti up and down quarks. But what happens to the negative energy up and down quarks?

To put it differently one last time. Say we have a hole made up out of equal amounts electrons, protons, neutrons, and neutrinos, the same particles present shortly after the big bang. If the hole is evaporated, are they gone? If so, does that mean that particles can be annihilated without their anti-matter counterpart?

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Hawking radiation is not only in the form of photons. Fermions, scalars, other spin-1 particles, and even gravitons also contribute (for example, see https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0370269311001559). So electrons and positrons are also emitted via Hawking radiation.

The origin of photons emitted during Hawking radiation is not an annihilation process between particles and anti-particles. Rather, the existence of the horizon changes the structure of the vacuum state experienced by an observer far away from the black hole (relative to what the vacuum would look like without a horizon), such that the observer sees a thermal bath of particles. The driving factor is the horizon, not interactions between particles. Exactly how this happens is difficult to explain without math.

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how can the inside matter, composed of normal matter (so no anti-matter), be transformed into photons only?

Firstly, I need to make some disclaimers. We don't have a fully-working quantum gravity (QG) theory, so we don't know exactly what happens to matter when it reaches the core of a black hole. And we can't be certain that Hawking radiation is real without a proper QG theory: Hawking's calculations involve a semi-classical approximation that "bolts on" quantum corrections to the purely classical GR equations, and we need QG to justify that procedure.

However, what goes on inside a black hole isn't actually relevant to the rest of the universe. As I mentioned in a comment, the matter and energy inside the event horizon (EH) cannot affect the outside universe in any way. All events on or inside the EH are in the future light-cone of the observer, and of course events must be in the past light-cone to have an effect on the present.

As I said here, the gravitational field of a black hole is sometimes described as a "fossil field". All matter & energy falling into the black hole modifies the spacetime curvature as it approaches the event horizon. And once it crosses the event horizon it can no longer change the spacetime curvature outside the horizon, so those curvature changes are preserved (until something else comes along to add its own curvature changes).

The same reasoning applies to the electromagnetic charge of the infalling matter and its effect on the electromagnetic field in the vicinity of the BH. It does not apply to the strong or weak nuclear "charges" because those interactions have finite range; only gravitation and electromagnetism are preserved due to their infinite range. This gives rise to the no-hair theorem:

The no-hair theorem states that all black hole solutions of the Einstein–Maxwell equations of gravitation and electromagnetism in general relativity can be completely characterized by only three externally observable classical parameters: mass, electric charge, and angular momentum. — Misner, Charles W.; Thorne, Kip S.; Wheeler, John Archibald (1973). Gravitation

The result was quickly generalized to the cases of charged or spinning black holes. There is still no rigorous mathematical proof of a general no-hair theorem, and mathematicians refer to it as the no-hair conjecture.

So when particles fall towards a BH they "pump" energy into the spacetime curvature and EM field of the BH. We don't know or care what happens to those particles once they cross the EH because in our frame that's always in the future.

It's not easy to get an intuitive picture of what happens in and around a BH. Our intuitions aren't very good at dealing with curved spacetime. ;) But here's an analogous situation in flat spacetime that may be helpful.

Imagine we set off an H-bomb at location X at noon on Tuesday. If we try to measure the energy of the blast on the previous day, we won't measure anything, no matter how close we get to X, how big the bomb is, or how sensitive our instruments are. The blast energy simply doesn't travel backwards in time.

Similarly, energy from events inside the EH would have to travel backwards in time to affect events outside the EH.

I should mention that the EH is observer-dependent. The "official" EH at the Schwarzschild radius is the horizon of the Schwarzschild observer. That observer is the limiting case of an observer free-falling towards the BH with zero velocity, so they're at an infinite distance. The horizon for any observer free-falling towards a BH is always below them, until they hit the singularity. This relativity of horizon location means that different observers will measure different numbers of particles in the vicinity of the BH, and is ultimately what gives rise to Hawking radiation, as John Rennie explains here. The mathematics used to perform the Hawking radiation calculations involves the Bogoliubov transformation, which is a bit above my paygrade. ;)

In summary, the Hawking radiation is produced from the energy stored in the gravitational & electromagnetic field around the BH, and the types of particles that originally caused those stresses and strains in those fields is irrelevant.

Now, according to the Bekenstein bound, the entropy of a BH is proportional to the surface area of the EH. So the information regarding the particles that formed the BH isn't exactly lost, but it's not exactly accessible either. As far as I know, Hawking radiation is supposed to be perfectly thermal, so we can't decode that information from the Hawking radiation.


BTW, you may enjoy playing with the Hawking radiation calculator. It makes a few approximations, but it's generally pretty good.

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Black-holes are peculiar but nevertheless bona-fide quantum states of a given quantum field theory and therefore are expected to respect conservation laws: charge conservation, in particular. In a Einstein-Maxwell theory, if you build a black hole by throwing in only charged particles, it would have to radiate this charge away. A variation of this reasoning was used to come up with the "weak gravity conjecture", which roughly states that gravity is the weakest force. More precisely, it states that in a physical theory with charged particles coupled to gravity, you need to a have at least one particle with "more charge than mass" (in suitable units), for otherwise charged black-holes would be able to radiate all the charge away before fully evaporating.

Other symmetries of the standard model like Baryon number, Lepton number (which relate to matter/anti-matter asymmetry) are believed to be only approximate. But in grand unified theories, B-L (baryon minus lepton number) is usually taken to be conserved: this would constitute a global symmetry. And indeed, in quantum gravity, it is also believed that no global symmetry should exist, by similar sort of black-hole evaporation arguments. A rigorous demonstration of this has been given in certain space-times with boundary conditions such that quantum gravity is tractable in there (with negative cosmological constant), see Harlow-Ooguri. Quantum gravitational effects should therefore arise to break the B-L global symmetry at the Planck scale (or before).

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We do not know

We have never seen a black hole up close. The black holes we are reasonably certain exist, are very far away.

Hawking radiation is a theoretical feature of very small black holes. The black holes we think we have seen are very big. Their Hawking radiation levels would be undetectable, even if we were up close.

Meanwhile, we have theories. The problem is that we have many such theories and they do not fit together. In particular, general relativity and quantum mechanics aren't on speaking terms at all.

General relativity is our best theory for strong gravity. Quantum mechanics is our best theory for elemental particle behavior. Both are important to black holes and Hawking radiation.

As long as we do not have a working theory uniting the two, we cannot say we understand black holes at all. Anything we say are educated guesses at best.

The following guesses doesn't fit together:

  1. Black holes radiate, and will eventually lose all their mass to radiation.
  2. This radiation does not reflect the particles used to make the black hole.
  3. The total number of baryons and leptons are conserved.

As you are saying, these guesses can't all be true simultaneously.

picop's answer states that some people believe number 3 is wrong, baryon and lepton conservation might not be absolute.

My personal less educated guess is that number 2 is wrong, Hawking radiation will reflect the particles used to create it. Everything is conserved. My reasoning is from the viewpoint of any in-falling particle, the black hole will evaporate before the particle reaches the singularity --- meaning the singularity will never form in the first place.

Another alternative is the "baby universe" theory. Here the mass collected by a black hole will blow up as a Big Bang in a new universe. One could argue that the baryons and leptons lost to our universe are conserved in the new universe.

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The extreme conditions inside break baryon conservation

In general relativity (GR), a black hole forgets everything except mass, spin, and charge. No matter, energy, or information that enters can leave, and the black hole will last forever.

Quantum mechanics (QM) does not like it when information just disappears. And physics in general is time-reversible, even falling into a black hole.

This leaves us with the following situation:

  1. GR says it is impossible for any event inside a black hole to affect any event outside. It is very accurate so long as the holes are much heavier than the Planck mass of 22 ug.
  2. QM says that the hole will evaporate and that information escape is possible, somehow.

GR is very accurate, but wrong. It's accurate: it's impossible to deduce the baryon number or any other information about the inside of the hole (besides mass, spin and charge). But it's wrong: in principle this information is (likely) encoded by the escaping Hawking radiation.

Much like burning a book. The information is in theory encoded in the precise molecular state of the combustion products. But it is impossible to unscramble it.

A black-hole's inside is (probably) far, far move violent than any bonfire. GR predicts a "firewall" to form at the inner horizon which destroys everything that enters the hole. Such a "firewall" also resolves some annoying details about the information paradox.

Baryon number is no longer conserved at these unfathomably high energies. The hot early universe produced more matter than antimatter. Similarly, a black hole destroys baryons and re-emit their energy as light and gravitons. The hole will emit matter and antimatter when it gets extremely small, but this is a tiny fraction of the total mass put in.

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A black hole has no net electric charge and the photon has none either So charge is conserved and there is no problem